OIL DEPENDENCY - Sins Of The Fathers
A friend of mine, who has a son in Iraq, took an obvious emotional turn with his sons first tour which has since gotten more intense.
This has given me a sense of alarm and after several E-mail exchanges, I, in the last exchange told him to get a grip and this is the resulting exchange.
To keep everything in context, here's the full exchange which started with a joke.
A Zebra dies and arrives at the Pearly Gates. As he enters, he asks St. Peter,
'I have a question that's haunted me all of my days on earth.
Am I white with black stripes, or am I black with white stripes?'
St. Peter said, 'That's a question only God can answer.'
So the zebra went off in search of God.
When he found Him, the zebra asked, 'God, please - I must know.
Am I white with black stripes, or am I black with white stripes?'
God simply replied 'You are what you are.'
The zebra returned to see St. Peter once more, who asked him,
'Well, did God straighten out your query for you?'
The zebra looked puzzled. 'No sir, God simply said 'You are what you are.''
St. Peter smiled and said to the zebra, 'Well then, there you are.
You are white with black stripes.'
The zebra asked St. Peter, 'How do you know that for certain?'
'Because,' said St. Peter, 'If you were black with white stripes,
God would have said, 'You is what you is.'
Cute eh !
Well, Bill (not his real name) is a Demokrat so my response was hmm, a little morose I'll admit.
"Speaking of zebras, who ya votin for?"
to which he replied;
"I am a one issue guy. I want this in Iraq over.
I won't vote for any of these dwarfs unless they will end it immediately."
and I back at him;
"Get a grip man!
No one is (can) going to end it immediately!"
to which he fired back;
"Then that answers your original question.
"Get a grip" means what? Let children lose limbs and lives for nothing?
Bring the naive children home. Let all the worldly adults who feel we have a reason to be there
suit up and we will fly them over there and provide all the guns and ammo they need.
We are still a super power. We can do whatever the hell we want. Are we afraid to admit we made a mistake and withdraw?
If it is the oil fields we are worried about. Withdraw from everything but the oil fields. Let the adult volunteers protect them.
Screw the rest of the country and its civil war.
If this conflict requires more than that, then declare a real war and institute a draft. How? far would that get?
We need some outside the box thinking."
not to let liberal irrationality run the world unabated - or with rampant abandon as is the case nowadays; ..................my retort;
"I never asked a question that needed answered!
To get a grip means, to calm down, to think rationally and clearly..
"Let all the worldly adults who feel we have a reason to be there."
Absolutely, the adults now were the idealistic youth of 35 years ago who knew that oil would be fought over in the future, just like water and other finite resources.
Well, they, WE are having our heads handed to us "The Sins Of The Fathers"! for not getting away from oil 35-40 years ago. We saw it coming - then drove off to Yellowstone.
The children (sons) have always died for the failings of the Fathers.
As long as we are in (even more so now with Russia, India & China vying for the resource)desperate competition with others to maintain our lifestyle and they are headlong into creating theirs, nothing will change.
Yes we went into Iraq out of necessity - I know you don't agree but that's the FACTS.
Saddam stormed into Kuwait (remember?) that's a no no! Then he was positioned to threaten (and did in rhetoric) Saudi Arabia's Oil Fields - that's a no no!
The war was totally justified but the execution of it was a total blunder.
Face it we (and any other world power in the Alpha position would have done the same) we had to protect our interests - read OIL!
Iraq means nothing except in words behind the agenda - It's better to patronize, show friendly, than to live amongst resentment and time will (maybe) see them as friendlies making oil trade much easier.
As for the outside of the box thinking, read the news, watch the markets trade solar, bios, windmills, hybrids nukes, etc.etc. it's happening but just not as fast and in the order that pleases you.
This problem would have been solved by now if WE would have taken the steps needed then !
I agree and would go to Iraq in their place in a heartbeat - but only if the rules and regs that get in the way of winning were lifted - (and I could neutralize everything Sunni, Shia & Iranian in sight!)
never forget!
BTW, I find it a little irritating that you would call OUR Brave Young Men and Woman proudly serving their country "NAIVE"! Does that include Eric (not his real name) as well? Then you won't mind if I call those that havn't enlisted to do what's best for THEIR NATION Slacker Hippy Cowards would you - didn't think so !
This has given me a sense of alarm and after several E-mail exchanges, I, in the last exchange told him to get a grip and this is the resulting exchange.
To keep everything in context, here's the full exchange which started with a joke.
A Zebra dies and arrives at the Pearly Gates. As he enters, he asks St. Peter,
'I have a question that's haunted me all of my days on earth.
Am I white with black stripes, or am I black with white stripes?'
St. Peter said, 'That's a question only God can answer.'
So the zebra went off in search of God.
When he found Him, the zebra asked, 'God, please - I must know.
Am I white with black stripes, or am I black with white stripes?'
God simply replied 'You are what you are.'
The zebra returned to see St. Peter once more, who asked him,
'Well, did God straighten out your query for you?'
The zebra looked puzzled. 'No sir, God simply said 'You are what you are.''
St. Peter smiled and said to the zebra, 'Well then, there you are.
You are white with black stripes.'
The zebra asked St. Peter, 'How do you know that for certain?'
'Because,' said St. Peter, 'If you were black with white stripes,
God would have said, 'You is what you is.'
Cute eh !
Well, Bill (not his real name) is a Demokrat so my response was hmm, a little morose I'll admit.
"Speaking of zebras, who ya votin for?"
to which he replied;
"I am a one issue guy. I want this in Iraq over.
I won't vote for any of these dwarfs unless they will end it immediately."
and I back at him;
"Get a grip man!
No one is (can) going to end it immediately!"
to which he fired back;
"Then that answers your original question.
"Get a grip" means what? Let children lose limbs and lives for nothing?
Bring the naive children home. Let all the worldly adults who feel we have a reason to be there
suit up and we will fly them over there and provide all the guns and ammo they need.
We are still a super power. We can do whatever the hell we want. Are we afraid to admit we made a mistake and withdraw?
If it is the oil fields we are worried about. Withdraw from everything but the oil fields. Let the adult volunteers protect them.
Screw the rest of the country and its civil war.
If this conflict requires more than that, then declare a real war and institute a draft. How? far would that get?
We need some outside the box thinking."
not to let liberal irrationality run the world unabated - or with rampant abandon as is the case nowadays; ..................my retort;
"I never asked a question that needed answered!
To get a grip means, to calm down, to think rationally and clearly..
"Let all the worldly adults who feel we have a reason to be there."
Absolutely, the adults now were the idealistic youth of 35 years ago who knew that oil would be fought over in the future, just like water and other finite resources.
Well, they, WE are having our heads handed to us "The Sins Of The Fathers"! for not getting away from oil 35-40 years ago. We saw it coming - then drove off to Yellowstone.
The children (sons) have always died for the failings of the Fathers.
As long as we are in (even more so now with Russia, India & China vying for the resource)desperate competition with others to maintain our lifestyle and they are headlong into creating theirs, nothing will change.
Yes we went into Iraq out of necessity - I know you don't agree but that's the FACTS.
Saddam stormed into Kuwait (remember?) that's a no no! Then he was positioned to threaten (and did in rhetoric) Saudi Arabia's Oil Fields - that's a no no!
The war was totally justified but the execution of it was a total blunder.
Face it we (and any other world power in the Alpha position would have done the same) we had to protect our interests - read OIL!
Iraq means nothing except in words behind the agenda - It's better to patronize, show friendly, than to live amongst resentment and time will (maybe) see them as friendlies making oil trade much easier.
As for the outside of the box thinking, read the news, watch the markets trade solar, bios, windmills, hybrids nukes, etc.etc. it's happening but just not as fast and in the order that pleases you.
This problem would have been solved by now if WE would have taken the steps needed then !
I agree and would go to Iraq in their place in a heartbeat - but only if the rules and regs that get in the way of winning were lifted - (and I could neutralize everything Sunni, Shia & Iranian in sight!)
never forget!
BTW, I find it a little irritating that you would call OUR Brave Young Men and Woman proudly serving their country "NAIVE"! Does that include Eric (not his real name) as well? Then you won't mind if I call those that havn't enlisted to do what's best for THEIR NATION Slacker Hippy Cowards would you - didn't think so !
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